Well, a brief note or pondering in the harbour of Trondheim in Norway next to a small pine that grows between two roads, the harbour and the railway station in a very very noisy place, on a small stripe of land in a very very man-made and artificial environment so to speak. But from here one can see also the other side of the fjord, which is covered with forest, so, your colleagues or compatriots in a free community. And I record this pondering because I tried to record a conversation on video but now I try to do it by sound only and I turn my back to the road with the heaviest traffic in order to be audible. Luckily there is no wind, it's amazing, although we are on the Atlantic Coast. And my question, the topic I wanted to discuss with you, or the pondering was this topic of the future of JAR, the renewal of JAR, Journal for Artistic Research, and what kind of model a pine tree could provide for that as an evergreen creature who is super adapted to circumstances. So I'm really impressed that you can survive and even to some extent thrive here, in the spot where I find it quite hard to endure even for a short moment. The view of course is very, very beautiful, but the noise is nearly unbearable. So how to learn from pine trees how to constantly renew ourselves, so without need for dramatic changes, but still sort of, there is a continuous process of growth and discarding of old needles and production of energy through photosynthesis and reaching up towards light. And of course you're also providing nourishment and a milieu for a lot of creatures. And that of course is the main point of a journal to somehow sustain a variety, and communicate and disseminate a variety of artistic practices and approaches to research. Well, anyway, the conference organised by the Society for Artistic Research 'too early or too late' is just beginning, but I am happy that I've found you here so I could also have a word with a local pine so to speak. Okay, so thanks for today, bye.
Hello pine, I hope you're fine. You're living in a very special place on a small strip of land between two roads, between the harbour and the railway station in Trondheim, but you are facing on the other side of the fjord, a small or lowish mountain with plenty of forest, so although you personally are here, sort of cramped into a man-made territory, quite noisy one, you're not that far from compatriots or colleagues that live in freedom or let's say in community as you normally do. Alright, there's a few of you here, I think four and some other trees, too, so you're not completely alone, but the space is rather weird. I'm very happy that I met you because I walked around in Trondheim in the centre, on the central island yesterday and I saw only one big pine, which was in a closed yard, so I couldn't come anywhere near. My original plan was to come to you and ask for advice concerning the future of JAR, Journal for Artistic Research, but because I was afraid I wouldn't find you in time here I chose to talk with a pine tree in Helsinki instead. But since I now found you, I'd like to ask you what do you think should be our priority in developing the journal. To give you some background, it's an online open access journal for artistic research, which uses the RC platform and therefore focuses very much on on visual and audiovisual communication modes and not only text, which is of course today mainstream but wasn't so much that ten years ago, when we began. But now to increase the diversity, or diversification, I would like to ask your advice. Because of course, as we work now, you cannot contribute really directly in any way, and I don't think that it will be possible in a very near future. But somehow the principle of inclusiveness has been, or a striving for an increased inclusiveness has been a guiding principle. And I remember a slogan I met somewhere, which is not a slogan, it's a word of wisdom, which says that every increase in awareness is an increase in inclusiveness. And that's awareness, but how, how, how can that awareness be translated into practice? Thanks for listening to me, even though I am too impatient to really try to listen to your answer. And the environment is a little too noisy for me to be able to hear that. Maybe I should come closer. Okay, thank you.