[talking about the subtheme of refined sensibility] Part of your challenge as a listener is to find your interest and, if you’re able to find your interest, that makes you more of a participant in the cultural project. One of the early rejoinders to Cage is La Monte Young, and that is completely about cognitive processes: the idea of listening to a drone, discovering that you are experiencing the drone changes. Part of his art is to reveal to the listener cognitive processes that would otherwise go unnoticed. Minimalism is the removal of distraction. I’ve never seen that formulation. I use that as an efficient way to describe what minimal strategies are. Then you can see that, from that perspective, minimalism doesn’t have to be thought as a formalist exercise at all, because it really wasn’t anyway. It’s involved in exposing something by removing distractions.