Dialogue: Deborah Harty

The collaborative drawing with Deborah Harty began with a disambiguation of Harty’s contribution to Drawing Ambiguity: beside the lines of contemporary art: Trailing Temporal Trace (Harty, 2015).

Harty, Deborah, 2015. Trailing Temporal Trace.  In: Sawdon and Marshall (eds), Drawing Ambiguity: beside the lines of contemporary art.  I.B. Tauris, London, New York. Pp 54, 56, 58.

The contribution was edited into a series of extracts, shown below, supplemented with commentary from the investigators (Marshall and Sawdon).


DEBORAH HARTY

could drawing be said to be the ambiguity through which we know ourselves?

 

DEBORAH HARTY

across, through and within, towards, in and through, upon, through, between, in and through, across, through and on, from, by

 

DEBORAH HARTY 

The background as such is necessarily ambiguous: we conceive of its presence although our attention can never be fully turned towards it, for it too will become the surface we mark through the trace of our attentions. In other words, the background will cease to be background once we objectify it through our attentions.

 

DEBORAH HARTY 

the background has a surface

 

MARSHALL AND SAWDON 

Is Passage (drawing) an example of hyperdrawing?

 

MARSHALL AND SAWDON 

Space of ambiguity p59

 

MARSHALL AND SAWDON

Space and place of / in hyperdrawing.  Is one of the spaces background? Does hyperdrawing have spaces? Yes!, dimensions: 2d, 3d, 4d

 

DEBORAH HARTY 

I am here...

 

MARSHALL AND SAWDON 

(outlines of awareness) – just like this.

 

DEBORAH HARTY 

Through the mediation of our body we are situated, through the mind’s transcendence we are free within the space of our background. At any given moment the line we traverse may wander between, in and through these opposing points.


MARSHALL AND SAWDON 

perforated boundaries and delineations

 

DEBORAH HARTY

The line of our lived situation, wandering through and in the space of the opposing marks of grounded transcendence is necessarily ambiguous.

 

DEBORAH HARTY

As such our experience is ambiguous.

 

DEBORAH HARTY

However, as the very essence of our existence, we are mostly unaware of this lived ambiguity. In everyday experience there is a composition to this lived reality: our surface lines and marks interweave creating a surface of lived coherence.

Ambiguity reveals its mark when we retrace and turn our attention to a specific line or mark. In an attempt to determine the line as it is traced we become aware of its ambiguous wandering. A line we are unable to mark or cross with a point of inbetweenness; a dissecting point between opposition. Instead, the complexity of the line is marked with shifting perceptions of attentiveness, marking the tension of a space of combination within the ambiguous line we are traversing. Bodily and spiritual intentions combine without equal or defined appearance. Consequently, we are unable to determine the exact point at which the opposing points meet, join or overlap. Ambiguity is the space of combination of marks, blots, blemishes and lines, which combine to form the rich surface of lived existence against the background of our world.

 

MARSHALL AND SAWDON 

– so is there a point here that suggests ambiguity only becomes revealed on review, is ambiguity in the eye of the beholder?

 

DEBORAH HARTY

Ponty: the space of ambiguity

 

DEBORAH HARTY

In this trace drawing is ambiguity.

 

DEBORAH HARTY

In this trace drawing is ambiguity: the ambiguity of our lived experience as incarnate and spiritual beings.

The dialogue was then edited. 

 

the background as such is necessarily ambiguous we conceive of its presence although our attention can never be fully turned towards it for it too will become the surface we mark through the trace of our attentions in other words the background will cease to be background once we objectify it through our attentions the background has a surface through the mediation of our body we are situated through the mind’s transcendence we are free within the space of our background at any given moment the line we traverse may wander between, in and through these opposing points  perforated boundaries and delineations

 

…becomes…

 

Background

thebackgroundassuchisnecessarilyambiguousweconceiveofitspresencealthoughourattentioncanneverbefullyturned

towardsitforittoowillbecomethesurfacewemarkthroughthetraceofourattentionsinotherwordsthebackgroundwillcea

setobebackgroundonceweobjectifyitthroughourattentionsthebackgroundhasasurfacethroughthemediationofourbo

dywearesituatedthroughthemindstranscendencewearefreewithinthespaceofourbackgroundatanygivenmomenttheli

newetraversemaywanderbetweeninandthroughtheseopposingpointsperforatedboundariesanddelineations

 

Space

spaceofambiguityp59spaceandplaceofinhyperdrawingisoneofthespacesbackgrounddoeshyperdrawinghavespacesy

esdimensions2d3d4dIamhereoutlinesofawarenessjustlikethisthelineofourlivedsituationwanderingthroughandinthe

spaceoftheopposingmarksofgroundedtranscendenceisnecessarilyambiguouspontythespaceofambiguity

 

Prepositions

acrossthroughwithintowardsinthroughuponthroughbetweeninthroughacrossthroughonfromby

 

Experience

assuchourexperienceisambiguoushoweverastheveryessenceofourexistencewearemostlyunawareofthislivedambigui

tyineverydayexperiencethereisacompositiontothislivedrealityoursurfacelinesandmarksinterweavecreatingasurface

oflivedcoherence

 

Ambiguity

ambiguityrevealsitsmarkwhenweretraceandturnourattentiontoaspecificlineormarkinanattempttodeterminethelineasiti

stracedwebecomeawareofitsambiguouswanderingalineweareunabletomarkorcrosswithapointofinbetweennessadiss

ectingpointbetweenoppositioninsteadthecomplexityofthelineismarkedwithshiftingperceptionsofattentivenessmarking

thetensionofaspaceofcombinationwithintheambiguouslinewearetraversingbodilyandspiritualintentionscombinewitho

utequalordefinedappearanceconsequentlyweareunabletodeterminetheexactpointatwhichtheopposingpointsmeetjoin

oroverlapambiguityisthespaceofcombinationofmarksblotsblemishesandlineswhichcombinetoformtherichsurfaceofliv

edexistenceagainstthebackgroundofourworldsoisthereapointherethatsuggestsambiguityonlybecomesrevealedonrev

iewisambiguityintheeyeofthebeholder

 

Trace

inthistracedrawingisambiguityinthistracedrawingisambiguitytheambiguityofourlivedexperienceasincarnateandspiritu

albeing

A disambiguation of Trailing Temporal Trace (Harty, 2015). Our reading recognises emergent arguments of: ambiguity, background, experience, prepositions, space, trace… Drawing ambiguity, we know the background will become the surface, the trace of our attentions. A surface, the line may wander, wandering through grounded transcendence. Experience is ambiguous. In composition, marks interweave lived coherence. Our attention traced ambiguous wandering to mark the tension of a space.  Ambiguity is the space of drawing… is ambiguity?

Marshall and Sawdon

Digital drawing

Dimensions: variable

2017 

Caption

could drawing be said to be the ambiguity through which we know ourselves?

 

The background as such is necessarily ambiguous: we conceive of its presence although our attention can never be fully turned towards it, for it too will become the surface we mark through the trace of our attentions. In other words, the background will cease to be background once we objectify it through our attentions.

 

the background has a surface

 

Through the mediation of our body we are situated, through the mind’s transcendence we are free within the space of our background. At any given moment the line we traverse may wander between, in and through these opposing points

 

The line of our lived situation, wandering through and in the space of the opposing marks of grounded transcendence is necessarily ambiguous.

 

As such our experience is ambiguous.

 

However, as the very essence of our existence, we are mostly unaware of this lived ambiguity. In everyday experience there is a composition to this lived reality: our surface lines and marks interweave creating a surface of lived coherence.

Ambiguity reveals its mark when we retrace and turn our attention to a specific line or mark. In an attempt to determine the line as it is traced we become aware of its ambiguous wandering. A line we are unable to mark or cross with a point of inbetweenness; a dissecting point between opposition. Instead, the complexity of the line is marked with shifting perceptions of attentiveness, marking the tension of a space of combination within the ambiguous line we are traversing. Bodily and spiritual intentions combine without equal or defined appearance. Consequently, we are unable to determine the exact point at which the opposing points meet, join or overlap. Ambiguity is the space of combination of marks, blots, blemishes and lines, which combine to form the rich surface of lived existence against the background of our world.

 

In this trace drawing is ambiguity: the ambiguity of our lived experience as incarnate and spiritual beings.

across, through and within, towards, in and through, upon, through, between, in and through, across, through and on, from, by

 

…becomes…

 

Drawing ambiguity, we know the background will become the surface, the trace of our attentions. A surface, the line may wander, wandering through grounded transcendence. Experience is ambiguous. In composition, marks interweave lived coherence. Our attention traced ambiguous wandering to mark the tension of a space.  Ambiguity is the space of drawing… is ambiguity?